Judyth Vary Baker's Blogs

Want to learn more about Judyth Vary Baker?

"Judyth Vary Baker claims to have been Lee Oswald's girlfriend in New Orleans in the Summer of 1963, and to have participated with him in a secret bioweapons program."
Go to the following blog addresses to read about her and Oswald:
http://judy-baker.blogspot.com/
and
http://oswald-framed.blogspot.com/ .
To learn more, read the book Me & Lee: How I Came to Know,Love and Lose Lee Harvey Oswald."


I've put up these blogs, and a few more, with the help of supporters, in order to provide information that isn't distorted by people who have never met me.

Many people, in contrast to that individual who never met me, have deeply investigated my story,have conducted face-to-face and/or telephonic/videocam interviews, many of considerable length, have had extensive and up-to-date email contacts with me and/or have actually published my book and/or made a TV documentary where I was included, or was even a main subject, because they believed my testimony was valuable. The individuals listed below constitute only a portion of those who have since joined in or who do not publish their works. Their professional descriptions are generalized for brevity's sake:

JIM MARRS NOTED JOURNALIST AND AUTHOR,JFK ASSASSINATON EXPERT-INCLUDED IN HIS CROSSFIRE DOCUMENTARY=FACE TO FACE INTERVIEWS, TELEPHONIC AND EMAIL CONTACT AND QUESTIONING, FILMED INTERVIEWS AND RECORDED SESSIONS, INVESTIGATIVE RESEARCH
WIM DANKBAAR FORMER DUTCH INTELLIGENCE AND JFK ASSASSINATION EXPERT- MADE DVDS, FACE-TO-FACE MEETINGS, EXTENSIVE INTERVIEWS, CLOSE AND FREQUENT CONTACT IN HOLLAND,FILMING AND RECORDING SESSIONS,INVESTIGATIVE RESEARCH
HARRISON LIVINGSTONE -RESPECTED JFK RESEARCHER, PUBLISHED MY FULL-LENGTH BOOK IN ITS FIRST DRAFT AFTER EXTENSIVE EMAIL CONTACTS, TELEPHONIC CONTACTS, INTERVIEWS, INVESTIGATIVE RESEARCH
MARTIN SHACKELFORD - HELPED EDIT THAT BOOK, BUT IT WAS NEVER PROPERLY FINISHED TO MY APPROVAL;EXTENSIVE FACE-TO-FACE INTERVIEWS, FILMED INTERVIEWS,INVESTIGATIVE RESEARCH,
DR. HOWARD PLATZMAN, PhD PHILOSOPHY OF SCIENCE,-WROTE THE FIRST LARGELY CORRECT VERSION BY PASTING MY EMAILS TOGETHER AND WRITING GOOD PORTIONS TO PUT THE PIECES TOGEHER, BUT IT LEFT TOO MUCH OUT AND HAD TOO MANY CHARACTER ERRORS;MUCH INVESTIGATIVE RESEARCH, FACE-TO-FACE EXTENSIVE MEETINGS, SIXTY MINUTES INVESTIGATOR ALONG WITH
HOWARD LIEBENGOOD, HOUSE COMMITTEE INVESTIGATOR, ACCESS TO HSCA DOCUMENTS, INVESTIGATOR FOR SIXTY MINUTES (I DO NOT MENTION ALL THE INVESTIGATORS HERE), ASKED SIXTY MINUTES TO FILM DESPITE "DOOR WAS SLAMMED IN OUR FACES"DON HEWITT]...FACE-TO-FACE, ABLE TO VERIFY I HAD SEEN MK-ULTRA DOCUMENTS
DON HEWITT: SIXTY MINUTES FOUNDER -- FACE-TO-FACE-HAD INVESTIGATED MARITA LORENZ AND OTHERS, WANTED TO FILM.
PHIL SCHEFFLER: SIXTY MINUTES EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: FACE-TO-FACE, WROTE EMAIL SAYING "WE DID NOT WALK AWAY FROM THIS STORY" REGARDING FAILURE OF SIXTY MINUTES TO BE ABLE TO FILM
DUTCH CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR PETER DEVRIES -FAMOUS FOR UNCOVERING FAKES AND FRAUDS, WAS SATISFIED AFTER HIS INVESTIGATORS AND HE, AS WELL, INTERVIEWED ME, DID INVESTIGATIONS, VIEWED MY EVIDENCE, VERIFIED,ETC. HE THEN INCLUDED THE FILM AND MY STATEMENTS IN HIS "OSWALD INNOCENT" DOCUMENTARY VIEWED ACROSS EUROPE. MEETINGS IN CALIFORNIA;TELEPHONIC, EMAILS, FACE-TO-FACE
DR.JAMES FETZER, PhD PHILOSOPHY OF SCIENCE,LOGIC, JFK ASSASSINATON EXPERT, FOUNDER, ASSASSINATION SCIENCE, -- MANY LIVE INTERVIEWS AND SOME TELEPHONIC INTERVIEWS, EXTENSIVE, LENGTHY AND SIGNIFICANT EMAIL CONTACT,INVESTIGATION
NIGEL TURNER (THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY)TELEPHONIC INTERVIEWS, TAPE RECORDED INTERVIEWS, FILMED INTERVIEWS, MEETINGS ON SITE,FACE-TO-FACE,MONTHS OF INVESTIGATION AND YEARS OF EXPERIENCE 9AS HAVE SO MANY OTHERS ON THIS LIST)
EDWARD T. HASLAM-NEW ORLEANS NATIVE AND SON OF A DOCTOR AT TULANE, HEW KNEW/MET SOME OF THE IMPORTANT PLAYERS IN NEW ORLEANS, TELEPHONIC INTERVIEWS, FACE-TO-FACE MEETINGS,RADIO AND FILM INTERVIEWS,EXTENSIVE EMAILS, MORE,YEARS OF PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN THE PARTICULARS OF THE CASE.
DR.JOHN WILLIAMS: PhD, STATISTICS, PhD, PSYCHOLOGY: JFK ASSASSINATION EXPERT ESP.IN APPLICATION OF STATISTICS AND PROBABILITY; LONG,EXTENSIVE EMAIL CONTACT, CONTACT WITH FAMILY OF A WITNESS.

As for Dr. McA, he never met me. First he heard of me, late in 1999, learning that I said I worked with a well-known cancer researcher, Dr. Mary Sherman, he at once claimed she was not a cancer researcher --she was just an orthopedic surgeon. He never corrected this statement despite the Wall Street Journal front page article on July 21, 1967 describing Sherman as "Cancer expert."



He thanks a number of people for helping him present me as a fruitcake--though these helpers of his also never met me (except one -- R. Chapman--who stood up, then shook my hand before leaving Mary Ferrell's home as soon as I arrived). McA altered emails and portions of correspondence taken out of context and refused to to correct any errors pointed out to him. He has stated that his objective is to break up newsgroups and forums where the JFK assassination is discussed. It's "Case closed" for him. He has built his entire life and academic reputation around the falsehood that Lee H.Oswald killed President Kennedy. He has to stand before God not long from now ("for we are all mortal") and explain himself.

jvb

THE INFILTRATORS AMONG US -PART ONE

I WAS AMONG THE STUDENTS AND ACTIVISTS WHO PROTESTED THE VIETNAM WAR IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. I WORKED ON THE STAFF OF 'THE RAG' UNDER FAKE NAMES. I ALSO OBTAINED INFORMATION ABOUT LYNDON JOHNSON FOR THE RAG,SPACE CITY NEWS, AND FOR THE VILLAGE VOICE, DARING TO DO WHAT I COULD DESPITE THE RISKS,FOR I WAS A WITNESS WHOSE REAL NAME HAD TO BE KEPT UNDER WRAPS.

BUT I KNEW HOW AND WHY LYNDON JOHNSON TOOK POWER, AND WAS DETERMINED TO DO WHAT I COULD. I HOPE LEE OSWALD WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD.

WHEN I MARCHED IN THE DEMONSTRATION SEEN IN THE PHOTO ABOVE--JUST ONE OF MY ANTI-WAR ACTIVITIES-- MY BABY WAS IN A STROLLER. MY HUSBAND SIMPLY WATCHED--HE DID NOT PARTICIPATE. HOWEVER,MY WHOLE FAMILY KNOWS I PARTICIPATED IN THESE DEMONSTRATIONS.

WHAT UPSET MANY OF US--ESPECIALLY WE WHO WORKED ON THE RAG AND WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY -- AND KNEW EACH OTHER WELL -- WAS THE FACT THAT SOME VIOLENT PEOPLE HAD JOINED IN WITH US WHO WERE DISPOSED TO OBSCENE GESTURES AND FILTHY LANGUAGE. A FEW OF THEM HAD MEGAPHONES. WHILE WE MARCHED FOR PEACE, THEY WERE INCITING THE POLICE, SHOUTING COMMUNIST SLOGANS AND CREATING A FALSE IMPRESSION OF OUR PEACEFUL INTENTIONS.



A FEW BROKE SOME WINDOWS AND THREW THINGS AT THE POLICE,TRYING TO START A VIOLENT INCIDENT. THIS SAME TACTIC OCCURS TODAY AMONG PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATIONS WORLDWIDE. IT GIVE THE POLICE A REASON TO ARREST LEADERS AND ANYONE WHO STANDS OUT.

WE PHOTOGRAPHED SOME OF THESE PEOPLE AND AFTER SOME TROUBLE FOUND THAT THEY WEREN'T FROM THE COMMUNIST PARTY.



THESE INFILTRATORS WERE 'UNKNOWNS' WHO, WHEN CLOSELY EXAMINED, WERE FOUND TO HAVE BEEN BUSSED IN, WITH PLENTY OF MONEY TO SPEND,UNLIKE THE REST OF US. THESE 'OUTSIDERS' CREATED INCIDENTS CALCULATED TO TURN THE AVERAGE CITIZEN AGAINST THOSE OF US DEMONSTRATING AGAINST THE VIETNAM WAR. I HEARD OF SOME OF THEM SPITTING ON RETURNED VIETNAM VETS.

WE HAD ENOUGH PROBLEMS JUST GETTING THE RAG OUT TO THE PUBLIC:



"Thorne Dreyer, with first issue of The Rag, confronted by kampus kop on the campus of UT-Austin in October, 1966"

I DID QUITE A BIT OF TYPING IN THEIR LITTLE OFFICE OFF CAMPUS FOR THEM...AND SAW THE RESULTS OF A RAID BY THE POLICE ON THAT OFFICE,TOO...DREYER WAS A HERO IN OUR EYES.

THE PUBLIC WAS TURNED FROM HAVING SYMPATHY FOR THOSE OF US RISKING OUR NECKS FOR PEACE FOR SOME TIME. MOST OF US WERE DUBBED "REBELS." EVENTUALLY,HOWEVER, THE PEOPLE RESPONDED. TRUTH EMERGED, AND WE WERE ABLE TO BRING OUR TROOPS HOME AND STOP THE HORRORS IN VIETNAM.

TODAY, ONCE AGAIN WE FIND INFILTRATORS IN ABUNDANCE --WE CALL THEM TROLLS,SHILLS AND FLUNKIES---THEY ARE THICK IN NEWSGROUPS WHERE PEOPLE TRY TO DISCOVER THE TRUTH ABOUT THE JFK,RFK, MALCOLM X AND MLK ASSASSINATIONS,THE TRUTH ABOUT WHY WE INVADED IRAQ, WHY WE ARE LOCKED IN A HOPELESS WAR IN AFGHANISTAN, AND WHO WAS REALLY BEHIND THE EVIL PLANS OF 9-11.

CASS SUNSTEIN, PRESIDENT OBAMA'S "SPIN CITY CONTROLLER" BELIEVES INFILTRATORS ARE NECESSARY TO PRESERVE THE NATION. HE'S WRONG.
LIES AND SECRECY ARE THE STUFF OF WAR AND CURTAILMENT OF HUMAN PROGRESS. INFILTRATORS ARE SPIES, AND THEY HAVE OFTEN BEEN TRAITORS.

HERE ARE A FEW WEBSITES WHERE SUNSTEIN'S VIEWS ON INFILTRATION ARE MENTIONED:

Cass Sunstein Cognitive Infiltration
Cass Sunstein Cognitive Infiltration - from WN Network. ... saboteurs and infiltrators who are working behind the scenes to undermine our liberties. ...
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Any COGNITIVE INFILTRATORS in here? - JREF Forum
26 posts - 21 authors - Last post: 10 Feb
Cass Sunstein has long been one of Barack Obama's closest confidants. .... There's probably some infiltrators from another forum, a dark, ...
forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s...p=5595325 - Cached

Cass Sunstein's Thought Police « Arthur Goldwag
27 Jan 2010 ... The official is Cass Sunstein, the long-time University of ..... would like to see Sunstein volunteer to be a cognitive infiltrator himself, ...
arthurgoldwag.wordpress.com/2010/.../cass-sunsteins-thought-police/ - Cached

WE ARE AGAIN AT A PLACE WHERE THERE SHOULD BE DEMONSTRATIONS AGAINST THE TERRORISM WE ARE CONDUCTING UNDER THE GUISE OF A 'WAR AGAINST TERROR.'
WE HAVE MADE ENDLESS ENEMIES OF FORMER ALLIES.
WE HAVE POLARIZED RELIGION AGAINST RELIGION.
WE HAVE BROUGHT OUR COUNTRY INTO A STATE OF FASCISM FOR THE SAKE OF 'NATIONAL SECURITY.' OUR PRESIDENT HEEDS THE ADVICE OF GENERALS, WHO ONLY KNOW HOW TO CONDUCT WARS,INSTEAD OF TO MEN OF PEACE, WHO COULD GUIDE HIM ON WAYS TO STOP THEM..

UNDERSTAND THAT WE COULD PLACE TROOPS AT PAKISTAN'S BORDERS AND LET AFGHANISTAN TAKE CARE OF ITS OWN INTERNAL PROBLEMS. WE CANNOT WIN A WAR THAT THE SOVIET UNION COULD NOT WIN WITH ITS TENS OF MILLIONS OF TROOPS. AFGHANISTAN BANKRUPTED THE USSR.

IT IS ABOUT TO BANKRUPT US.

THE LEGITIMACY OF OUR GOVERNMENT, WHICH HAS EMBROILED US IN WARS AND IN ECONOMIC DISTRESS FOR DECADES, WITH LITTLE RESPITE, SHOULD REMIND US THAT WE WILL NOT BE A FREE PEOPLE MUCH LONGER BASED ON THIS KIND OF AGENDA.

SECRECY, FEAR, INFLRATION,LIES...THEY MUST STOP.

ON THE HOME FRONT, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT ITS LEGITIMACY IS NOT QUESTIONED.

FORGET ABOUT THE HANGING CHADS IN FLORIDA.

FORGET ABOUT LBJ'S SUDDEN RISE TO POWER WHEN JFK WAS MURDERED BY THE GOVERNMENT (YES, HE WAS!).

IF WE ARE TO OBTAIN PEACE AND PROSPERITY, INFILTRATION,LIES, AND DECEIT MUST BE UNCOVERED.

THE TRUTH MUST BE FACED ON ALL FRONTS.

I REPEAT: SECRECY IS THE STUFF OF WAR.

THERE ARE INFILTRATORS AMONG US WHO COOPERATE TO MISINFORM YOU ABOUT THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOU DO NOT QUESTION THE LEGITIMACY OF OUR GOVERNMENT. BUT OUR TWO-PARTY POLITICAL SYSTEM IS HOPELESSLY CORRUPT. OUR 'LEADERS' ARE PUPPETS PURCHASED BY BIG CORPORATIONS AND LOBBYISTS.

THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS THAT IF LEE HARVEY OSWALD IS CONSIDERED INNOCENT, THAT THE COUP D'ETAT THAT TOOK OVER AMERICA WILL BE DISCOVERED BY ALL.

I RISK MY LIFE TO EXPOSE THESE THINGS. ENOUGH INCIDENTS KEEP OCCURRING TO REMIND ME OF THAT. I AM PROUD TO HAVE COURAGEOUS PATRIOTS SUCH AS DR.JIM FETZER AND JIM MARRS AND EDWARD T. HASLAM AT MY SIDE.

THE AIM OF THE INFILTRATOR IS TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO HIDE THE TRUTH FROM WE, THE PEOPLE."

EXPOSING THEIR METHODS

EXPOSING THEIR METHODS IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THESE SAME METHODS ARE USED TO SKEW POLLS, SURVEYS AND "PUBLIC OPINION." ANYONE BELIEVING THAT UNEMPLOYMENT LEVELS ARE LESS THAN TEN PERCENT IS LIVING IN WONDERLAND. OUR PEOPLE ARE GROANING UNDER A YOKE OF ECONOMIC OPPRESSION. BANKS ARE BAILED OUT: HAD THAT MONEY BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO AMERICANS INSTEAD, ALL THOSE HOUSES WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED. HAD OUR JOBS NOT BEEN SENT OVERSEAS, OUR PEOPLE WOULD HAVE WORK TO DO, AND INCOME.

MY NEXT BLOG POST WILL DISCUSS THE INFILTRATORS THAT I CONSIDER TRAITORS AMONG US.

JVB

Dear George Bailey: Here's Why I Laughed When Asked About Death Threats

Dear George Bailey: Here's Why I Laughed When Asked About Death Threats

George Bailey has written some good information about the Kennedy assassination and about Lee Oswald.

I was concerned, then, when a friend allowed me to use his computer today (I am en route to a third world country) so I could see George's remarks....which can be read here...

http://oswaldsmother.blogspot.com/search/label/Judyth%20Vary%20Baker

George didn't appreciate a nervous laugh I made when asked about death threats in the Nov. 22 Coast-to-Coast interview. he waned me to spend that precious few minutes giving details.

Suffice that I had incidents occur just prior to the interview of Nov. 22. What happened to me in London in May, 2010, was equally disturbing to friends there. Dr. Jim Fetzer was made aware --at once-- of several intimidating and outright threatening events that occurred there. We went ahead with those interviews anyway.

I was accepted as a political asylum seeker and given protection over ten months in the EU political asylum system due to death threats. I felt people don't want to hear about that: I believed they preferred to hear what I could say in such a short time about Lee Oswald, a hero.

With very limited time to speak on Coast-to-Coast from a location I wished to keep confidential, I was not about to give time or glory to the clods who were persecuting me, trying to intimidate me.
So this is my reply, George, to your statement:

"When asked by host George Knapp about the death threats she said she has gotten, she never gave a straight answer and laughed it off. I wish she had been more forthcoming on the threats and how they were delivered."

I had only a few minutes to speak, after which the cell phone used would be mailed back to the person who lent it to me, never to be used by me again.


...I was on my way out of the country, but due to an incident that very day, had to actually call in from a different location than the one originally planned...

For those uninformed, my laugh was not because I thought receiving death threats was "funny."

Note this explanation of "nervous laughter":

Unhealthy or "nervous" laughter...is not true laughter, but an expression of tension and anxiety. Instead of relaxing a person, nervous laughter tightens them up even further.

one person online wrote:

"...A few weeks ago, my house burned to the ground, and I lost nearly everything I owned; I almost lost my life. But even that night, I was cracking a few rather dark jokes with some of my friends (albeit aided by a couple of cocktails). Humor can be relied on to "get me through"; because it's been an effective coping & healing mechanism in the past, I often turn to humor in times of crisis."

Posted by: Trista Meehan | February 23, 2010 4:08 PM

the great sci-fi writer, KURT VONNEGUT, WROTE:

"...I saw the destruction of Dresden. I saw the city before and then came out of an air-raid shelter and saw it afterward, and certainly one response was laughter. God knows, that’s the soul seeking some relief.

Any subject is subject to laughter, and I suppose there was laughter of a very ghastly kind by victims in Auschwitz.

Humor is an almost physiological response to fear. Freud said that humor is a response to frustration—one of several. A dog, he said, when he can’t get out a gate, will scratch and start digging and making meaningless gestures, perhaps growling or whatever, to deal with frustration or surprise or fear.

And a great deal of laughter is induced by fear."

GEORGE, YOU HAVEN'T WALKED IN MY MOCCASINS.
I HAD THE CHOICE OF BURSTING INTO TEARS--OR MAKING A LITTLE LAUGH AND GOING ON WITH THE INTERVIEW.

Thank you, George, for all you've done to defend Lee Oswald. perhaps we'll meet one day, and we can talk! :-)

JVB

p.s. as to George's remark that Ed Haslam was in error saying a Mauser was found in the TSBD and that it was "two days" (calendric days) until that was corrected to a Mannlicher-Carcano--- George, he made his statement on the basis of known reports on Nov. 22-24, 1963.

See for them yourself on YOUTUBE here:

After Wall Street II Oliver Stone should do JFK II - The last key witness has finally been found

After Wall Street II Oliver Stone should do JFK II - The last key witness has finally been foundby Roland Michel Tremblay

The last key witness

that Oliver Stone mentioned in the film "JFK" (1991), the one who could have solved and proved the conspiracy surrounding JFK's assassination, has finally been found. Her name is Judyth Vary Baker and her 606 page testimony titled "Me & Lee, How I came to know, love and lose Lee Harvey Oswald" has just been published at Trine Day Press.

Jim Marrs, the long-

time investigator and author of the New York Times bestseller "Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy", upon which the "JFK" film was based, as

ked in the afterword of Baker's book how she can still be alive today. Good question.
It has not been easy. Baker decided to t

alk after 36 years of frightened silence, but after being confronted with death threats she had to leave the United States. She returned to the US twice, only to flee overseas due to ongoing stalking, harassment and several hospitalizations caused by what Marrs termed "freak accidents." In 2007 she was accepted as a political asylum seeker in Europe, the first ever non-combatant American woman to succeed in gaining asylum seeker status in the world. She is still struggling with character assassination over the Internet by people intent on destroying her as a credible witness, but her book is out now, and it changes everything. So much so that Oliver Stone could finally do a final and less static version of

his film. Instead of telling us about what might have happened, he could now show us what really happened in 1963 in New Orleans and Dallas.
What happened is far more impressive and sinister than anyone could have imagined. Beyond the facts that the death of JFK opened the way to more wars, such as in Vietnam, ostensibly to fight communism while enriching the war industry, with the Mafia free of Bobb

y Kennedy's pesky presence countering corruption, we now know there is now a whole new angle to the story. And it is perhaps more important and worrying than even the assassination of a beloved President. Behind it all was the development of a biological weapon capable of killing anyone by injecting virulent cancer cells. Any such

murder would, of course, look like a natural death.


This is what Lee Harvey Oswald, a US government agent, was working on with

Judyth Vary Baker in the summer of 1963 in New Orleans, along with David Ferrie, Dr. Mary Sherman, and Dr. Alton Ochsner from the Ochsner Clinic, with the government and the Mafia waiting in the

wings. That fact alone warranted that many witnesses had to be eliminated. If you check carefully, two of these witnesses died of a powerful cancer that spread quickly, without detection, that death ensued soon after its diagnosis -- the assassin of Oswald, Jack Ruby, who claimed to have been injected with cancer cells, and Clay

Shaw, the central figure in the Garrison trial in Stone's movie, "JFK", who died in Ochsner's Clinic and was buried within 24 hours. Part of the whole story had been p

reviously published in another significant book -- "Dr. Mary's Monkey" -- written by Edward T. Haslam. "Dr. Mary's Monkey" has become an underground bestseller. Haslam, the son of a prominent New Orleans doctor, wrote the foreword to Baker's book.

The extraordinary story of Judyth Vary Baker certainly came as a surprise to all main investigators, who had never heard of her before, although there are actually many oblique references to her in the extant body of evidence, as well as living witnesses who have verified that she was Oswald's close companion and lover in the months before the JFK assassination. Some still insist she made it all up, while others have concocted see-through lies to discredit her, preferring to protect their own theories and book sales. Strikingly, after nearly 50 years, new evidence and

witnesses such as Baker are still being largely ignored in favor of well-financed TV specials and YouTube presentations. Foremost in these efforts is Vincent Bugliosi, who received a million dollars for his book, "Reclaiming History", which supports the Warren Commission's findings, and Gerald Posner (recently ind

icted for blatant plagiarism).

"How many authors do not dare have book signings?" Baker asked. "For my own safety, I'm unable to do so." Baker has turned down countless requests for interviews: in the past seven years since the History Channel presented Baker's story in a documentary ("The Love Affair"), only Dr. James Fetzer has managed to get an interview with her. Now that Baker's book has been published, it will become evident to all that no one could possibly make this up, especially when it answers and brings together all the pieces of a puzzle that so many have tried

, unsuccessfully, to solve over the years. Those who read the book will also understand why so many witnesses died mysteriously, one by one, following the double assassination of JFK and Oswald, and why the various official investigations conducted were charged to convince the public that a demented lone nut -- Lee Harvey Oswald -- was Kennedy's assassin. If Jim Marrs, Edward T. Haslam, Fetzer and the producers of "The Love Affair" were convinced that Judyth Vary Baker was telling the truth, it was because she has told her story with str

iking candor, with a large amount of evidence supporting her testimony.

Judyth Vary Baker had only one wish when she was a young and promising lab researcher hired by Dr. Ochsner -- to discover a cure for cancer -- and everyone believed then that she could do it. She and her fellow research associates were led to believe that the New Orleans Project -- developing a biological weapon designed to assassinate Fidel Castro -- could have prevented the death of JFK and World War Three.

Then, after Kennedy was killed, she was told to keep her mouth shut and to never again work in cancer research. But the little girl from Bradenton Florida still has up-

to-date knowledge of the

research being done today. "I still believe I could cure certain kinds of soft tissue cancers inexpensively," she says, "within five years, using modified bacteriophages." Bacteriophages are simple viruses that literally 'eat' bacteria, Baker explained, but they could be "genetically altered" to seek out certain cancers and literally eat them alive. "Bacteriophage therapy

could also be applied to fight bacterial diseases such as tuberculosis," she said. "Resistance to antibiotics is becoming a problem that bacteriophage research could very possibly solve."

photo: baceriophages attacking a shigella-infecting cell

But Baker fears that as long as so much cancer research is finance

d by private pharmaceutical companies, that expensive chemotherapy will continue to be the center of research efforts, since bacteriophage therapy would be much cheaper and therefore less profitable. "We could have cured cancer decades ago," Baker insists. Because of the "profit factor," Baker believes that "if we ever develop an inexpensive cure for cancer, it will be due to independent research at universities, or in government-funded labs. An inexpensive treatment, such as one involving the direct use of bacteriophage, will not come from Big Pharma."

"Me & Lee, How I came to know, love and lose Lee Harvey Oswald" by Judyth Vary Baker (www.judythvarybaker.com) and Dr. Mary's Monkey by Edward T. Haslam (www.doctormarysmonkey.com) offer the big picture --and finally link together -- all the major players in the conspiracy surrounding JFK's assassination. It is time for us to appreciate what transpired then and draw parallels as to what is happening today. Oliver Stone should produce "JFK II" so we can be aware and move on to real and tangible change and a durable peace. Such was, after all, the main dream of John F. Kennedy.

Defending Judyth Vary Baker: the Education Forum-- and Its Biased Accusations -- a Response

James H. Fetzer
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JUDYTH REPLIES TO JACK ABOUT HER LETTERS
This response serves as a reply to post #1111 from Jack as well as this one. I have been snowed under by the blizzard and want to post Judyth's reply promptly.
I find it fascinating how many who are attacking Judyth
--including Glenn Viklund, Barb Junkkarinen, and (now)
even Jack White--appear entirely willing to depend upon
John McAdams. We are way past the point of (what is known as) diminishing returns in relation to this thread.
JUDYTH RESPONDS:How sad. Jack White has been accessing John McAdams' pages, for only there is my love letter to Lee described as Jack has described it. Jack has been fooled by McAdams & Co. into saying that I "presented a lot of "love letters" written to Robert as being to LHO (salutations torn off)." He parrots these lies as if they are facts:'presented a lot of love letters' is what the McAdams site say. This is a sad day, to see Jack state such a thing, when I could have answered his questions fully.

i) I presented ONLY ONE love letter to "60 Minutes"
--the only one I ever wrote to Lee.
ii) There is only ONE letter to Robert Baker inthe record. I saved it to prove the situation in New Orleans. The other letter was to Lee. I never had
possession of any other of Robert Baker's love
letters. Of course he has them (unless his wife threw
them away).

I am sorry to see Jack taking time to read material offered by the WC defender,John McAdams, and his cohorts. Here is what Jack wrote:
"Has anyone corresponded with Robert Baker
lately? From what I have seen on the internet,
he does not believe his ex's tales. Also notedthat JVB presented a lot of "love letters"
written to Robert as being to LHO (salutationstorn off)."
My reply:
Jack, you went to the Internet and are now parrotting what you found there. You
could have asked questions instead of stating 'factoids' from McAdams & Co.

Now you'll get the facts.

1) Typically, Robert Baker does not respond. However, his wife may respond for him, pretending to be Robert Baker. Dr. Howard Platzman exposed her as POSING as Robert Baker in emails.

She married Baker in the late 1980's and knewnothing of what transpired in 1963.

However, she said Robert Baker remembered returning to Florida on July 20, 1963.
He (or, rather, she) said I was lying about saying any later.But paycheck stubs, utility payment checks, bank statements, and more show that we remained
in New Orleans until early SEPTEMBER. Robert Baker was 'off' on the date by six weeks. He was out of town so much he has few memories of New Orleans.
2) Mr. Baker is a genius with an IQ of 186,measured and known. However, his memory of
details many other people recall is dismal.
A math genius, he was unable to remember his own mother's maiden name when asked for it on our marriage license. I attach our marriage license,showing a blank there.

(THE MARRIAGE LICENSE PHOTO CAN BE SEEN IN THE DOCUMENTARY,

"THE LOVE AFFAIR": this is a blurry screen shot...the empty information line is at lower left)

He could not remember the names of his elementary school teachers. He forgot what
grade his oldest son was in. He spent morereal time with his parents that summer than he spent in New Orleans, and the rest of his time was out in the Gulf of Mexico. We have his dated letters showing exactly where he was all summer,and what he was doing. We can account for every single day where he was--something he
is unable to do. He did admit that I might have had an affair that summer, though he is certain (and is correct) that was the only time I would have conducted an affair. Ho

wever, his wife may comeup with some stories for you, posing as him.

Take your chances.

3) The love letter that is supposed to have its salutation torn off'

-- the ONLY leter I ever submitted, the ONLY letter I ever showed anybody, written
to Lee, has its salutation intact. What was torn was
part of a quotation on the right side, top. NOBODY writes a salutation on the upper right-hand corner. It's always on the left-hand side.


McAdams & Co. wrote: "notice there is no name
for recipient; section torn off."
But let's examine this letter and see if it could have been written to my much-absent husband who neglected me the entire summer, who left me alone in New Orleans one day after we were married, without tellng me how to reach him.
On the other hand, that summer Lee and I became involved in dangerous matters. This letter was written to Lee after he told me he believed he was going to be killed, and that he was sorry he had gotten me involved in his life. Read the letter and
see how serious it is about life and death. ANYONE who reads my book will know that
Robert's impact on me was very different. He wasgone so much that I decided to divorce him, andonly because I was forced back to Florida by Ochsner did I stay with him. Always fond of him,Robert had

no troubles or trials for me to worry about.

Before going any further, look at the torn-off section: the words 'thou" and "bestowed" can be read. I wrote someting there such as,
"Thou, upon whom I bestowed my love."


There is nothing there to suggest a name torn off....'thou' begins on the same line across as "My dearest love."

Indeed, the letter was given to "60 Minutes" intact.
It was damaged later, when vandals ripped up

many
of my papers. They saw the letter intact.
Dr. Howard Plazman saw the letter intact.

I did not dare address Lee by name. Lee r

eturned
the letter because he did not dare carry it to Mexico
City, but he did not want it destroyed. We hoped to
keep the letter as part of our history as lovers in
New Orleans. Certainly I own no letters that I wrote
to Robert, except the one I took with me when we
divorced, to prove I came alone to New Orleans.

I originally planned to take my knowledge to the
grave, but wanted evidence passed on to my oldestson.

Thus, I kept the New Orleans letter to Robert. And of course, I kept the precious letter, to Lee..

Note that I underlined the word 'dearest' because I had two lovers in my life at that time:

(McAdams & Co, wrote the info in the black area,
that Mr. White read)
I wrote: "you are forever immortal because of what we
have between us."
Who brings up death in a love letter?
Who would write (if we fled and had to stay in hiding):

"A lifetime of sorrow could lie ahead for us, but what
difference? Together, today, we live forever!"

And why write "I won't forget" to Robert Baker, who had left me to fend for myself in New Orleans?

I would never forget that Lee rescued me after I was thrown out in the middle of the night onto the streets of New Orleans, and he found me an apartment and paid 1/3 of the rent for it. Robert would be gone up to 21 days at a time, as his letters prove. McAdams & Co. posted what the "fake" Robert Baker [his wife] told them, that 'he' was out a week and home for 4 days at a time, that summer. But his letters and paycheck stubs, which I kept to prove his whereabouts, show that was not the case.

And what about "And I love you forever, dearest beloved, no matter what! Kisses and love,
your Judy."

No matter what?

We didn't know what was going to happen to us!
WHO touched me, 'so gently, so lovingly, so
surely, like the gentlest raindrops on parched soil'?

[note the photo of Robert and me in Fort Walton

Beach, on arrival for brief visit in July, 1963.

Body language is stiff and my frown does not

show satisfaction with my new, neglectful husband]

Was it the man who sent me a POST CARD when he came through New Orleans with his friends, who dropped it into a postbox to his new, young, lonelywif

e who was LIVING in New Orleans, saying he would be coming by to see me in a few days, and
complaining about how hot it was... Oh, and asking me to be sure to eat well?

Who signed off on a letter to me as 'Rat" --
knowing he'd neglected me terribly?

Instead of relying on inaccurate and biased
"information" from McAdams & Co., please
ask the witness next time, and get the truth. Instead of McAdams'
misleading factoids, check:

http://www.judythbaker.blogspot.com
http://www.judythvarybaker.com

http://www.lee-harvey-oswald.com

htp://www.jfkmurdersolved.com

People, the thread has gotten too long.

It's time for those who care about the truth to go to one of these sites.

You can ask questions there without hunting for answers in a long thread.

If Mr. White prefers to use McAdams' flawed mate

rial, stating factoids from that kind of person, when the witness is standing here ready to answer his
questions, it's time to urge everyone who really cares about these matters to visit elsewhere, as indicated, for the correct information.

I also am now 'on the road' and cannot respond
to questions here anymore. I will be all but
incommunicado for at least 8 weeks, until I getsafe Internet connections again.

I believe many questions have been answered and that honest researchers can see that many rumors floating out there were wrong.

My family's name was not "Avary,"
I never had lots of love letters to show people,

I really did do advanced cancer research,
KanKun was not the same as Cancun, Lee DID arrive in New Orleans on April 25 as I
stated, neither Lee nor I knew that David Atlee Phillips was his handler's real name until almost the last minute (despite Mr. Lifton's twisted version),

I was NOT kicked off the DellaRosa forum for abusive posts,I DID receive protection (including inhibition) in the EU political asylum system, etc., etc.
Thank you, everyone who has been polite, and decent.

Be sure to tune in to hear Edward Haslam's next broadcast with Dr. Jim Fetzer. Be sure and get the eye-opening book Dr. Mary's Monkey.

And think about pre-purchasing Me & Lee from my website. Those who do will eventually receive a personalhand-written thank-you leter of appreciation for
doing so.

God bless you all,

Judyth Vary Baker (modified with photos and a few more comments,

Oct. 2010)

[quote name='Jack White' post='189471' date='Apr 11 2010, 10:26 PM']

Good post, Don...except JVB is NOT the only one who knows the truth.
Her former husband said she was with him in the fall of '63 in Florida,
NOT IN NEW ORLEANS. He said that when LHO's photo was published
as the assassin, that his wife exclaimed to him, "I think I knew
that guy in New Orleans!"
Maybe someone should track down Robert Baker.
[p.s. from JVB: He's been tracked down, folks...i's been ten years since I spoke out...]
Jack

[quote name='Don Jeffries' post='189468' date='Apr 11 2010, 08:19 PM']Lee,

Thanks for one of the best posts in a very, very long thread.

The critical community seems never to learn; once again, we can see why so little progress has been made over the years. Too many egos, too many combative and sensitive personalities- it's an old story. We end up incessantly battling each oth

er over theories and side issues. As Pamela notes, it's essential that CTers stand together for what will certainly be the biggest onslaught of lone nutterism to date when the 50th anniversary rolls around in a few years.

As I noted in an earlier post, only Judyth knows the truth about her and Lee Harvey Oswald. At this point, failing any new irrefutable piece of evidence, I think we're beating a dead horse here.

I would hope that this contentious issue doesn't irreperably damage the relationships between fine researchers like Jack White, Jim Fetzer and Da

vid Lifton. We've had too many of these feuds in the past, and they've been tremendous roadblocks in exposing the truth about the JFK assassination. Let's not let this issue further divide us. Reasonable people can disagree about Judyth Baker, or John Armstrong, or James Files, etc. Let's all stay aware of the big picture and remember that our foremost objective ought to be exposing the impossibility of the official story.[/quote]
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JUDYTH REPLIES TO JACK WHITE ABOUT "THE TWO JUDYTH BAKERS"

NOTE: It does seem to be late in the day for Jack to be raising some of these
questions, especially since he never directs them to Judyth. This is one more
manifestation of his his extreme bias against her, which, of course, is shared
by most of those who attack her here. The others, by and large, are not very
surprising and, I suppose, Jack's closed-mindedness should not surprise me,
either. He hasn't read the books, listened to the interviews, or even read the
posts that Judyth and I have put up. Perhaps he won't even read her replies.
JUDYTH RESPONDS:

Jack White wrote:

I have been searching for information on TWO JUDYTH VARY BAKERS. Nothing.
But I found several interesting tidbits.
...JVB's eyesight is so poor that she has a seeing eye guide dog.

...JVB's former husband Robert gave a version of the story of the assassination contrary to JBV's. He said that at summer's end, he and Judy were both enrolled at the fall semester at the University of Florida in Gainesville, and on November 22 the
assassination happened,

==This is NOT "contrary to JVB's" story! Why not ask ME, Jack? You are once again accessing tainted sources and relying o

n Robert Baker's exceptionally poor memory.

1) I worked M-F 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM at Peninsular ChemResearch, Inc. I worked OVER-
TIME there twice a week at night, usually until 10:00 PM doing independent work. I have provided PenChem records of my work there, including my presence there Nov. 22, 1963.

2) I was also enrolled for 7 hours of night classes, at University of Florida, which I attended on T-TH nights, for which I have also provided records.
3) After the assassination, I was so upset I could not take my final exams, held not long after. Just one more coincidence? How many do you want? In August, 1964, I petitioned to get the H's removed, as I was literally ill due to the effects of seeing Lee shot before my eyes and was in a state of shock...
See attached: 7 hrs grades/

no final exam, Winter Trimester, UF, 1963 (where withdrawal
on the basis of "H" means "withdrawal for reasons related to the health of the student).

and that Judy brought home a newspaper showing the accused assassin,and Judy said, "I think I may have seen this guy in New Orleans".

==Answer (and please think, what would YOU have said?): Robert CAUGHT ME reading about Lee on the 23rd, in the newspaper. Yes, I pored over every word. Do you think I would have told Robert I was in love with Lee Oswald? I had to say something because we NEVER bought a newspaper, we read them at the library for free. So I said, and this is the correct quote, "I think I worked with him at Reily's in New Orleans."==

This is in contrast to the JVB story.

==No, it is not. You accessed tainted information. You did not ask the witness, who came to this forum to answer questions. Instead, you accessed a hostile website and quoted from it, stating it as "fact"' -- a website that prints hearsay and innuendo about me, written by people who defend the Warren Commission.

And now I have to travel, as I mentioned a couple of weeks ago. My time here is ending. You
could have asked so many questions, Jack. I answered in full the only question you did ask.
All the other things you posted about me were falsehoods offered as facts, obained from others.
You only had to ask....==

Has anyone checked the U of F enrollment records
to see whether Robert and Judy were enrolled there in September?

==I have provided the records. I was enrolled at UF at night. I was also working fulltime at the same time, at PenChem, working 44-50 hours a week. I have the W-2 form to go with the attached checks, and the income tax records, too, for 1963. I filled my income tax return separately from Robert Baker, because I wanted a clear record of my income to prove it.

I also illustrated for UF's The New Orange Peel magazine at that same time. In other words, I saw as little of my neglectful husband as possible. I was in love with Lee H. Oswald.==

Judyth


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